[Jobber]

Which one and why...

 

[S.Elliot]

I liked the type r better when it looked like this:

 

[Cosmonaut]

I like both so I can't really say until I get some more first hand experience with both. I agree on the original spoiler, but I can understand why they changed it.

 

[AutoFocus]

They both look very similar shape. Like said above, I can't say which one I would choose for sure, but when both the RS and Type-R are available to test drive I'll know exactly which one I'm getting

 

[Maximum6]

Type R looks too narrow at the rear wheel arches.

I would go with focus rs.

I also heard the sound of the type R and it wasn't exciting

 

[S.Elliot]

Type R looks too narrow at the rear wheel arches.

I would go with focus rs.

I also heard the sound of the type R and it wasn't exciting

I know what you mean and completely agree, but that is part of how Japanese cars are, a bit 'loud' in their design. The smoothness of the design on the Focus is much more pleasing to my eyes.

 

[Cosmonaut]

I know what you mean and completely agree, but that is part of how Japanese cars are, a bit 'loud' in their design. The smoothness of the design on the Focus is much more pleasing to my eyes.

It's totally preference though. I don't think the Civic Type R looks bad, but it is more out there and less conservative than the Focus RS. The two cars are looking to appeal to different design aesthetics .

 

[AutoFocus]

The Focus RS does have a much smoother exterior design though. After checking out a few more pictures of both the RS and the Type R I'd have to say when it comes to the exterior the RS looks way better. Too much going on with the Type R. Now only to wait and see how the engines and suspensions perform

 

[Jobber]

The Focus RS does have a much smoother exterior design though. After checking out a few more pictures of both the RS and the Type R I'd have to say when it comes to the exterior the RS looks way better. Too much going on with the Type R. Now only to wait and see how the engines and suspensions perform

The CTR looks like a toy from the exterior. the RS has more of a sleeper look...

 

[FocusNostalgic]

RS all the way

Definitely the RS for me, first because it reminds me so much of my old Focus, which was also painted Weird Blue (the electric blue that had shades of purple in it and made it the ugliest car in the morning and the most gorgeous thing on the road in the evening). Second, well, they've just nailed it so hard haven't they? Ok so I'm 40, I don't want a car that screams "look at meeeee! I go 'broooooom!'". I want a car that policemen won't look twice at. I want a car that the odd passer-by might glance at and perhaps think "there's something weird about this Focus, but I can't quite put my finger on it". As far as I'm concerned, that design couldn't be closer to what I'd want. The front end just blows me away, it's so well drawn. The rear wing isn't too big, I'm not usually a fan of those, but I could live with that one. But overall, proportions, stance, sharpness - nailed. Hard. That nail is *never* coming out.

 

[Cosmonaut]

I liked the Type R Concept better than the production version, but if its either one I would still choose the Focus RS first. I prefer the slightly more conservative styling of the Focus RS. You can always dress up the vehicle with after market parts if you want to have a vehicle that will stand out even more.

 

[centurion]

what isn't helping the civic is this is a Ford forum

bound to be more leaning towards the Focus over the Civic.

 

[AutoFocus]

Yeah, I do think however when both of these hot hatches are out, they will both give each other a run for their money. They do have a lot of different exterior traits but they also have a very similar shape.

Can't wait to see a side by side comparison of the two as well as a quarter mile drag.

 

[Jobber]

What I think may harm the Type R with enthusiasts is that Honda went with an electronically assisted steering setup. I've never driven an electric setup that offered the 'right feel'. Then again that may be a personal preference and not one thats shared with a majority...

 

[Cosmonaut]

What I think may harm the Type R with enthusiasts is that Honda went with an electronically assisted steering setup. I've never driven an electric setup that offered the 'right feel'. Then again that may be a personal preference and not one thats shared with a majority...

I'm sure that each vehicle with electrically assisted steering feels a bit different too. Maybe Honda will nail it with the Civic.

What don't you like about electronically assisted steering usually?

 

[S.Elliot]

Some don't like them as they fail to provide real feedback as you would get in a traditional setup, it just feels fake. Traditional setups were simple and gave you real feedback.

 

[Cosmonaut]

Sounds like its mostly personal preference, not like one is actually better than the other. I can understand how in performance oriented vehicles particularly, people might prefer the traditional setup. Younger people probably don't care so much though.

 

[Jobber]

Sounds like its mostly personal preference, not like one is actually better than the other. I can understand how in performance oriented vehicles particularly, people might prefer the traditional setup. Younger people probably don't care so much though.

No thats incorrect, one is better then the other. In fact they both are...

Electric systems offer better power 'efficiency' as the hydraulic power steering pump isn't run off the crank. But hydro systems offer a better road feel because they're heavier and mechanical...

So yes they're both better then each other depending on what your goal is...

 

[S.Elliot]

And when hydro systems fail, like a hydro leak, then you really begin to feel the road

Get a good forearm workout in the process, skip that part when you go to the gym.

 

[centurion]

apparently the Infiniti Q50 has a similar electric system which is reportedly good with giving a realistic feel