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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 11-17-2015, 12:40 PM Thread Starter
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Sedans are Out, CUVs are In -> So a RS CUV?

I reading a post on Jalopnik today that states:

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And in the next four years or so, Ford expects crossovers and SUVs to be nearly half the U.S. car market.
If people want CUVs and not sedans, do you think that it is probable that Ford will create an RS version of one of their CUV vehicles? BMW seems to make an M version of every vehicle they have. Now, Ford is not BMW, but obviously there is a big market for these coming up, and the market for sedans has a shrinking trend line.

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Americans will buy a record 5 million SUVs in 2015, fueled by low gasoline prices, cheap car loans and a desire for high-riding big rigs that can haul plenty of people and possessions, according to Kevin Schad, brand manager for the Ford Escape. Sales of SUVs and sport wagons are up 16 percent this year, according to researcher Autodata Corp. And they account for almost a third of auto sales in the U.S., Schad said.
Perhaps a Ford Escape RS could be in the future?
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Ford Escape RS sounds cool but I think that's pushing it too far, they should at least start with a sporty version of the Escape that has a level of changes in line with what you'll find with something like the Nismo Juke. But even that I would be against, but it's still a better idea (IMO) than an RS right away.
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no they wont do escape RS. But they're doing an Escape ST.
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OK so they do some ST versions of some of their SUVs and see how those perform in sales. After seeing the results, they can choose whih cSUV is going to be the best one to invest in. I also know that many other brands are coming out with super high powered SUVs (Bentley, Jeep, BMW, Mercedes).
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HA, sedans are out eh... Lincoln just built the new MKZ with the rear end out of the Focus RS... thats right, torque vectoring in a Lincoln

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To animate the MKZ’s handling, an optional Driver’s package adds torque-vectoring capability to the all-wheel-drive system with hardware borrowed from the rambunctious Ford Focus RS. Supplied by GKN, the torque-vectoring rear differential directs more thrust to the outside rear wheel in corners, creating a yaw moment that helps rotate the car. The Driver’s package also includes adaptive dampers and multi-contour seats with an almost obnoxious amount of adjustability, along with a bevy of superficial enhancements such as a dark-finish grille, carbon-fiber trim throughout the interior, aluminum pedal covers, and properly pretentious “ebony” brake calipers.
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Going to be the first time we'll see a Lincoln sedan do well on a road course track and that's what someone needs to do, although it might not be relevant to the mass of owners, it will be good to see what it's capable of.
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Its not that there isn't a market for sedans any more. It's more that SUVs and CUVs are increasing, while sedans are staying stagnant.
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Its not that there isn't a market for sedans any more. It's more that SUVs and CUVs are increasing, while sedans are staying stagnant.
but the line is fairly blurred between CUVs and hatchbacks. so offer more AWD hatchbacks and voila... the mercedes GLA is no SUV. it's barely even lifted, its a weird hatchback is what it is
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The lines are blurry for sure. It almost just comes down to ride height and a little bit of styling.
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but the line is fairly blurred between CUVs and hatchbacks. so offer more AWD hatchbacks and voila... the mercedes GLA is no SUV. it's barely even lifted, its a weird hatchback is what it is
I think part of that has to do with how people look at SUV's and wagons, the GLA delivered to them classified as an SUV and given SUV characteristics appeals to them far more than wagons, especially to the american demographic.
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